{"id":2519,"date":"2014-03-31T21:06:15","date_gmt":"2014-04-01T01:06:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/?p=2519"},"modified":"2022-07-12T17:39:20","modified_gmt":"2022-07-12T21:39:20","slug":"toilettes-publiques-a-montreal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/index.php\/toilettes-publiques-a-montreal\/","title":{"rendered":"Toilettes publiques \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Temps de lecture approximatif de<\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span><p>Sous le mandat de Camilien Houde dans les ann\u00e9es 30, Montr\u00e9al fit connaissance avec ces premi\u00e8res toilettes publiques, \u00e9galement appel\u00e9 des vespasiennes. Le terme \u00abvespasienne\u00bb vient de l&rsquo;Empereur Vespasien (69-79 apr. J.-C.) qui introduisit \u00e0 Rome ces lieux publics. Par contre, \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al, elles adoptent le surnom de populaire de \u00abCamilliennes\u00bb en honneur \u00e0 leur cr\u00e9ateur local. Les plus connues se retrouvent encore aujourd&rsquo;hui, mais ferm\u00e9e au public sous la Place d&rsquo;Armes, dans le Square Philips o\u00f9 on peut encore y apercevoir les entr\u00e9es d&rsquo;escalier et dans le Carr\u00e9 St-Louis, aujourd&rsquo;hui transform\u00e9 en cr\u00e8merie. Construites durant la p\u00e9riode des \u00ab\u00a0travaux de Ch\u00f4mage\u00a0\u00bb, sachez quand m\u00eame que la ville en avait fait construire une vingtaine dans diff\u00e9rents endroits publics et parcs de la ville. Plusieurs des b\u00e2timents existent encore, comme la \u00ab\u00a0cabane\u00a0\u00bb du Parc Lalancette dans Hochelaga, mais certaines furent d&rsquo;une tr\u00e8s belle \u00e9l\u00e9gance et peuvent encore aujourd&rsquo;hui \u00eatre admir\u00e9e comme les tr\u00e8s belles vespasiennes du Square Gallery sur Wellington dans Griffintown aujourd&rsquo;hui transform\u00e9 en espace \u00e0 bureaux ou les vespasiennes du Parc Morgan, d&rsquo;inspiration palladienne de la fin de la p\u00e9riode Renouveau Classique Anglais et surplomb\u00e9 d&rsquo;un kiosque pour fanfare.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bqxPyNEvH-A\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<p>La plupart de ces toilettes publiques, dans un \u00e9tat d\u00e9suet, ont \u00e9t\u00e9 ferm\u00e9es durant les ann\u00e9es 80, \u00e0 cause de leurs co\u00fbts d&rsquo;entretien et de maintien, mais surtout pour emp\u00eacher que ces espaces publics deviennent endroit de d\u00e9bauches, la ville d\u00e9cide que leur condamnation est la solution la plus simple. Pour en savoir plus sur l&rsquo;histoire des Vespasiennes Montr\u00e9alaises, prenez le temps de lire <a href=\"http:\/\/issuu.com\/proposmontreal\/docs\/vespasiennes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ce document par l&rsquo;Architecte Luce Lafontaine<\/a>, dat\u00e9 de 2008 et mandat\u00e9 par la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de d\u00e9veloppement de Montr\u00e9al offrant une \u00e9valuation de l&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat patrimonial des Camiliennes de la Place d&rsquo;Armes.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_2522\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2522\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/vesp_placedarmes_neverendsnet.jpg\" alt=\"Place d&#039;Armes Photo: Neverends.net\" width=\"550\" height=\"361\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/vesp_placedarmes_neverendsnet.jpg 550w, https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/vesp_placedarmes_neverendsnet-150x98.jpg 150w, https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/vesp_placedarmes_neverendsnet-300x196.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2522\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vespasiennes Place d&rsquo;Armes<br \/>Photo: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.neverends.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Neverends.net<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Depuis, si vous avez besoin de &#8230;. faire vos besoins, vous devez aller dans le restaurant ou l&rsquo;h\u00f4tel le plus pr\u00eat sans vous faire attraper par le personnel ou encore, trouver les toilettes d&rsquo;une propret\u00e9 parfois douteuse dans la ville souterraine. Il y a de l&rsquo;espoir aujourd&rsquo;hui avec les nouvelles technologies et les toilettes autonettoyantes comme il est possible de voir dans plusieurs villes europ\u00e9ennes. <\/p>\n<p>ILuveMTL, Un des espions du forum de discussion <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mtlurb.com\/forums\/showthread.php\/21758-Toilettes-publiques-automatis%C3%A9es-et-auto-nettoyantes?p=194517#post194517\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mtlurb.com<\/a> semble avoir mis la main sur un appel d&rsquo;offres de l&rsquo;arrondissement de Ville-Marie pour la mise en place de ces toilettes modernes automatis\u00e9es et autonettoyantes dans la Place \u00c9milie-Gamelin. Je dois avouer que l&#8217;emplacement choisi me laisse un brin pantois, ce n&rsquo;est pas le coin le plus touristique et l&rsquo;endroit est plut\u00f4t utiliser par des gens de nature quelques fois douteuse. Ceci \u00e9tant dit, peut-\u00eatre que c&rsquo;est exactement le but, de donner \u00e0 ces Montr\u00e9alais moins nantis un peu de dignit\u00e9. <\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/appledoffre.jpg\" alt=\"appledoffre\" width=\"500\" height=\"943\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2523\" srcset=\"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/appledoffre.jpg 500w, https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/appledoffre-79x150.jpg 79w, https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/appledoffre-159x300.jpg 159w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>Alors, voici mon id\u00e9e de Start-Up comme j&rsquo;ai vu ailleurs qui serait la bienvenue \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al. Une cha\u00eene de boutiques d&rsquo;espaces personnels nomm\u00e9s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.2theloo.com\/fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2theLoo<\/a>. Vous passez la porte et vous pouvez y voir une liste de prix et les services offerts. Un commis vous indique alors o\u00f9 vous rendre. Vous avez quelques toilettes priv\u00e9es o\u00f9 vous pouvez \u00ab\u00a0faire ce que vous avez \u00e0 faire\u00a0\u00bb quelques salles avec des tables \u00e0 langer pour changer la couche de b\u00e9b\u00e9, une salle d&rsquo;allaitement pour madame et quelques douches pour les travailleurs qui n&rsquo;ont pas le temps de retourner \u00e0 la maison en banlieue avant de rencontrer leur conqu\u00eate dans un resto du centre-ville.<\/p>\n<p>Les prix peuvent varier de 2$ \u00e0 4$ pour utiliser les toilettes jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 10-12$ pour utiliser une salle avec douche et miroir pour se refaire une beaut\u00e9. L&rsquo;endroit est sanitaire, nettoy\u00e9 apr\u00e8s votre visite et 10 000 fois mieux que ces toilettes de chantier bleues que l&rsquo;on retrouve lors d&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nements publics. Je vois ce genre de \u00ab\u00a0boutique\u00a0\u00bb de services dans le quartier des spectacles ou dans le vieux Montr\u00e9al. Vous ne voulez pas payer, \u00e0 vous de vous essayer dans les toilettes de centre d&rsquo;achat! Je crois que ce service pourrait attirer une bonne partie de la population qui a une peur bleue de faire un #2 quand ils ne sont pas \u00e0 la maison. <\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 Toronto, des toilettes install\u00e9es par nul autre qu&rsquo;Astral M\u00e9dia et la Ville ont co\u00fbt\u00e9s 400 000$ chacune, ne co\u00fbte que 25 sous \u00e0 utiliser, la p\u00e9riode maximale d&rsquo;utilisation pour votre 25 cents est de 20 minutes et elles sont climatis\u00e9es et chauff\u00e9es. Fait \u00e0 noter, que la premi\u00e8re a \u00e9t\u00e9 install\u00e9e en 2010 et la deuxi\u00e8me qu&rsquo;en 2012. Donc pour ceux qui chialent contre les d\u00e9lais, dites-vous que Montr\u00e9al en a pas le monopole. <\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"660\" height=\"371\" src=\"\/\/www.YouTube.com\/embed\/LAnPK1WP6u0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>Alors que pensez-vous de cet appel d&rsquo;offres de la ville? Montr\u00e9al fait-elle la bonne affaire avec ces installations qui existent d\u00e9j\u00e0 en France et m\u00eame \u00e0 Toronto ou est-ce un service qui devrait \u00eatre laiss\u00e9 au priv\u00e9?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Temps de lecture approximatif de<\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span>Montr\u00e9al va en appel d&rsquo;offre pour l&rsquo;installation de toilettes automatis\u00e9es et auto-nettoyantes \u00e0 la Place \u00c9mile-Gamelin. Est-ce un service n\u00e9cessaire?<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/proposmontreal.com\/index.php\/toilettes-publiques-a-montreal\/\">Pour lire l&#039;article&#8230;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Toilettes publiques \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2523,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1,393],"tags":[1149,1151,30,1153,1150,1424,1152],"class_list":["post-2519","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualite","category-histoire-2","tag-2theloo","tag-auto-nettoyante","tag-montreal","tag-services","tag-toilettes","tag-urbanisme","tag-wc","excerpt","zoom","full-without-featured","even","excerpt-0"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>des toilettes publiques \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Montr\u00e9al va en appel d&#039;offre pour l&#039;installation de toilettes automatis\u00e9es et auto-nettoyantes \u00e0 la Place \u00c9mile-Gamelin. 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